tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11154418.post7103769449077343580..comments2024-03-08T05:58:28.168-06:00Comments on A Difference: And Calculus For All: UpdateDarren Kuropatwahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08462283847470560887noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11154418.post-63236591493750479132009-01-11T10:12:00.000-06:002009-01-11T10:12:00.000-06:00Darren:Thanks for sharing the videos. I agree 30 s...Darren:<BR/>Thanks for sharing the videos. I agree 30 seconds is too short. My 8th grade students created a "newscast from Gettysburg" to help explain how people of the time felt upon hearing the Gettysburg Address. Their audience is our sixth graders. I gave them a 60 - 120 second time limit. We are going through the videos two at a time to review the production and educational value of the videos this month. I've shown some of the best and one of the less polished videos to the seventh grade. They are currently trying to outshine the eighth grade videos.<BR/><BR/>I haven't reflected on the whole process in my blog, but I enjoyed hearing your podcast reflection with your students. I think there is a lot of learning going on during the process that the students do not realize. Your students mentioned in passing that they had to talk about what they knew and whittle it down to the content that they presented. I saw that happening in the classroom as well.<BR/><BR/>I appreciate what Erik said in the comments. I spoke with our social studies teacher about my plans for the project, but it was completed during our computer class. We meet twice per week for 42 minutes. It took about seven classes. This was their first time creating movies. We discussed scripting, storyboarding, how to control photo effects, creative commons music, a Garageband review, and other items as well. It should go quicker with the seventh grade since they made a movie last year. We'll see.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for sharing your process.Ann Orohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11137060994986827867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11154418.post-39162801575778706282009-01-08T18:03:00.000-06:002009-01-08T18:03:00.000-06:00Great idea! I might use it for my calculus class a...Great idea! I might use it for my calculus class as well. <BR/><BR/>My students usually create full-length movies after the AP Exam as part of their final. I've also had them create commercials when we study optimization when they design a Super-Ultra-Mega Big Cup (that's SUM big cup!) for the McDerivative Corporation.Patty O'Flynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12896673279242901818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11154418.post-90216593292321280622009-01-02T17:32:00.000-06:002009-01-02T17:32:00.000-06:00That's a wonderful suggestion Jennifer! I'll discu...That's a wonderful suggestion Jennifer! I'll discuss it with my students in class on Monday.<BR/><BR/>Cheers!Darren Kuropatwahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08462283847470560887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11154418.post-48613316913815296002009-01-02T16:28:00.000-06:002009-01-02T16:28:00.000-06:00Hi Darren,What a great assignment - and thanks for...Hi Darren,<BR/><BR/>What a great assignment - and thanks for recording the reflection as well, all very helpful.<BR/><BR/>Now that the videos are complete and are on YouTube, would you ever consider posting them to sites like SchoolWAXtv.com or TeacherTube to increase their distribution and also spread the idea to other teachers? I understand why you used YouTube for the initial project, but also think that the act of sharing in school-safe sites is also valuable.<BR/><BR/>Looking forward to seeing next year's submissions!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11154418.post-86578081729831011022008-12-22T09:30:00.000-06:002008-12-22T09:30:00.000-06:00Hi Eric,Time is always a problem. In my case this ...Hi Eric,<BR/><BR/>Time is always a problem. In my case this project took 0 class time. It was a project for them to work on from home. We tweeted a request for video editing tools and received these suggestions:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://jumpcut.com/" REL="nofollow">http://jumpcut.com/</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.bestdvdeditingsoftware.com/dvd-editing-software/loiloscope-video-editing-meets-art" REL="nofollow">http://www.bestdvdeditingsoftware.com/dvd-editing-software/loiloscope-video-editing-meets-art</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://jahshaka.org/" REL="nofollow">http://jahshaka.org/</A><BR/><BR/>For sound editing my hands down favourite is <A HREF="http://audacity.sourceforge.net/" REL="nofollow">Audacity</A> but an online alternative I've heard good things about is Fruity Loops (now goes by the name <A HREF="http://flstudio.image-line.com/" REL="nofollow">FL Studio</A>). I think you can find a wealth of demos for FL Studio on YouTube.<BR/><BR/>The point of all this is I might use part of one class, maybe a full class if you're going to do several of these assignments throughout the course you're teaching, to show the kids the tools and briefly demo how they work. Keep links to them all in a handy place, like a class blog or wiki, so the kids can go back and get them when they need them. I then give them more time than they need to do the assignment and set a due date. With younger kids I would have a couple of check points along the way:<BR/><BR/>(1) Hand in a timeline for your project (brainstorming meeting, video shooting schedule, content editing meeting, editing schedule)<BR/><BR/>(2) Submit a storyboard or other outline of the content you will include. Include any creative ideas you have about how you want to do this but feel free to change your mind about these ideas at any time in the process.<BR/><BR/>(3) Deadline for final publication to YouTube.<BR/><BR/>As for your question about assessment, I'm developing the guidelines with my students and I'll share them here when we're done. My feeling is the lion's share of the grade should be for the (in my case) calculus content (I'd say 50% of the grade), we'll also have something in there about respecting the guidelines I published in my earlier post, something about copyright, something about capitalizing on the nature of the medium (video), and something about creativity.<BR/><BR/>I've done this sort of thing before. You can see how <A HREF="http://adifference.blogspot.com/2007/01/flickr-assignment-roundup.html" REL="nofollow">here</A> (my flickr assignment) and <A HREF="http://adifference.blogspot.com/search/label/expertvoices" REL="nofollow">here </A>(our Developing Expert Voices project — read from the bottom up). <BR/><BR/>You can <A HREF="http://www.slideshare.net/dkuropatwa/what-can-i-do-now-v101" REL="nofollow">hear me talk about this</A> approach to rubric development in a slidecast from a workshop I gave a while back. The rubric development is discussed on slides 13 to 19.<BR/><BR/>Hope that helps. Let me know how your class projects turn out by dropping a link to them here.<BR/><BR/>Cheers!Darren Kuropatwahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08462283847470560887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11154418.post-56166897601790875072008-12-22T08:37:00.000-06:002008-12-22T08:37:00.000-06:00Hi Darren,Your students' ads look great. I too ag...Hi Darren,<BR/>Your students' ads look great. I too agree that YouTube is better than TeacherTube. Another positive aspect of YouTube is that one is able to easily upload videos to YouTube using Mac's Imovie with just one click.<BR/><BR/>I recently had my 8th grade science class create ads for specific elements on the periodic table. They had to explain certain key facts about their element (atomic number, valence electrons, etc) and then "sell it" in their ad by describing its key uses. I tried to have them keep the ads under one minute, but many didn't have enough time to edit as needed.<BR/><BR/>This brings me to my, well, my conundrum with this project. My students used about one class period to research their element. They then used four additional classes to create their video. Because of the need to use Imovie, a program almost all of my students could not access at home, I had to use my science class time as time for them to create and edit the videos. Even with the four days, I think the majority of the ads could have used more edit time. <BR/><BR/>So now I'm thinking about how to do this project next year. The question I'm asking myself is whether it's worth it to use a week plus of science class to work on video editing. Though I love the ads (as do my students), I feel like I'm losing some quality science time in the process. It would be great if my students could work on the project at home or during a multi-media type class in school, but as of now, these are not options.<BR/><BR/>So my (two-part) question is: 1 - What kind of balance did you pursue in terms of having your students develop better calculus skills in conjunction with video production skills? and 2 - How did you assess those skills?Mr. Erik Dreisbachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04069969934088567758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11154418.post-18708311855218986702008-12-21T23:50:00.000-06:002008-12-21T23:50:00.000-06:00Hi Talia,We see it very much alike. ;-)Thanks for ...Hi Talia,<BR/><BR/>We see it very much alike. ;-)<BR/><BR/>Thanks for dropping by.Darren Kuropatwahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08462283847470560887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11154418.post-7022324006263085092008-12-21T23:49:00.000-06:002008-12-21T23:49:00.000-06:00Hi Alan,I think you're absolutely right on all cou...Hi Alan,<BR/><BR/>I think you're absolutely right on all counts. We're going to a 60 second time limit. I want to garner as large an audience as possible for my students work and I think a minute might be the upper limit of time that most folks would be willing to invest in watching a video about calculus. ;-)<BR/><BR/>Your suggestions about the content are right on the mark too. I don;t want them to "sell" the math, I want them to create content that educates in a <A HREF="http://www.slideshare.net/garr/garrs-slides-pptlive-08-presentation" REL="nofollow">Presentation Zen</A> sort of way; I want them to describe something complicated in a way that makes it seem simple. <BR/><BR/>I think I'll use <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Mingus" REL="nofollow">Charles Mingus</A>' words as the tagline for this assignment:<BR/><BR/><B>“Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity.”</B><BR/><BR/>I'll be pointing directly to your comments here in my opening class of the new year. Thanks for your input and continued interest in the stuff my kids are up to.Darren Kuropatwahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08462283847470560887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11154418.post-86934683761629054712008-12-21T22:41:00.000-06:002008-12-21T22:41:00.000-06:00Re: Using YouTube part of your post...I think it's...Re: Using YouTube part of your post...<BR/><BR/>I think it's great that you are using youtube- I like to use Viddler, because of its increased functionality, but find myself posting videos on youtube as well just because that's where the people are...T'liahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14571451036872496582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11154418.post-3499683140622368932008-12-21T19:26:00.000-06:002008-12-21T19:26:00.000-06:00Hi Darren,This is a very creative assignment, and ...Hi Darren,<BR/><BR/>This is a very creative assignment, and your students clearly demonstrated a lot of this creativity in using media and metaphor to create a "commercial".<BR/><BR/>I would agree that 30 seconds of content is way too short; it ought to be a limit to focus them, yes, but ought to be maybe 60 seconds or 2 minutes even.<BR/><BR/>My thought though is their subject should be more than "defining" what a derivative, and more so demonstrating how it can be used/observed in every day life. A few of the commercials suggested it, but might go beyond the citing a definition phase.<BR/><BR/>But again, I love the concept, and thanks for the reflection piece with student voices.Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02980801837743251948noreply@blogger.com